I have done many twist out with eco styler gel, s-curl and other products. What makes a good defined twist out is the product you use to mold you hair into shape. Moisturizers make my hair too soft and gels can make my hair too hard if you use too much. I enjoy using my eco styler gel because it mold in hair as it dry in the twist. Now that I am trying this moisture milk, I love it. It moisturizes my hair as well as add softness and hold for my twist out. It smells amazing with a creamy texture that adds shine and moisture to your hair.